September 2009

Residential Car Washing

New data - and controversy - the state of Washington

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By Dan Smith, Hollie Shilley

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By definition, residential car washwater is a non-stormwater discharge; however, the EPA ruling sets it and other types of non-stormwater discharges (including water-line flushing, landscape irrigation, and dechlorinated swimming pool discharges) apart. These discharges would only be included in the scope of an illicit discharge detection and elimination (IDDE) program if they were identified as significant contributors of pollutants to the MS4. In these cases, a municipality could require specific stormwater controls for the activity, or could prohibit the discharge completely.

If this sounds vague, it’s because it is. A former EPA senior analyst with the Office of Water stormwater programs admits that the permit is “mushy.” But he believes that existing within that mushiness is a degree of flexibility that will be a benefit to regulated MS4s when implementing an effective program.

Controversy Unfolds
Toward the latter part of 2008, a flurry of misinformation raced around numerous media outlets proclaiming that residential car washing would be banned in the state of Washington. Many people were incensed that government agencies would outlaw the washing of vehicles on private property.

Reacting to the firestorm, the DOE launched a full court press to set the record straight. In September alone, the DOE issued several news releases, a fact sheet, a guidance document to cities and counties, and a two-page letter from director Jay Manning explaining that the act of residential car washing would not, and should not, be banned.

 

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Water sample from a local charity car wash

Although most of the DOE communiqués listed the harmful constituents of residential car washwater such as soaps, oils, greases, toxic metals, and other chemicals that pollute the water and harm fish, the agency began recommending to local jurisdictions the following compliance path: Take the education road first in efforts to change behavior and improve surface water quality.

Sandy Howard, communications manager with the DOE’s Water Quality and Environmental Assessment Programs, acknowledges that this is where the agency decided to land, and admits that it will be up to each permitted entity to decide how hard of a compliance line it needs to draw in order to eliminate or reduce the prohibited discharges to “insignificant” levels.

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“People have to want to do the right thing, but often times they simply don’t know what to do,” she says. “It’s a challenge to change people’s behaviors, but we have to help them understand that storm drains lead to surface water with little or no treatment. First, we have to get through this learning phase.”

Sampling Design
In most cases, attempting to sample and quantify stormwater contaminants generated by common residential activities can be daunting. These elusive constituents, which are invisible to the naked eye, include fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides dissolved in surface runoff from lawns and bacterial loadings produced by poor pet waste management practices. Depending on the frequency and volume of stormwater flows, concentrations of these pollutants (the classic nonpoint discharges) can be highly variable. Next Page >

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ktidid

December 2nd, 2009 9:43 AM PT

Please tell me the name of the kit described in this article, and where to get it. The cost range would be appreciated also. I have a gasket oil leak in my quarter-century old Caddy which requires the transmission to be pulled down to repair. We have rainstorm water frequently so my son put a pan under the car with oil absorbent cloths in it. This is temporary until I can raise the thousand dollars required for the repair... some months ahead. Since my personal physical disablement does not affect my right leg I can drive safely even tho walking is impossible without my walker unless with excruciating pain and buckling of left knee. Therefore I do qualify for reasonable accommodation federal laws. And so, in spite of previous opinions about wicked people like me who are responsible for "devastating" Puget Sound, I ask if there is not some responsibility to stem penalties, especially financial, or worse, denying housing, against folks who need their cars, do not wash their cars, and do their best to control oil leaks... I have been threatened already by my landlord who claims he will be fined if I don't fix or get rid of my car. If I can get that kit would it work for me? Would it exempt my landlord? Or will I be evicted so he can avoid this "fine." Any information you can give me would be appreciated.

doug rice

November 19th, 2009 10:57 AM PT

"Non-toxic" soaps are not an answer. The problem with soap is that it is formed from a saponification process which creates a surfactant, the binding agent between fats and water. The surfactanct is one of the worst problems with soap in natural waters. The surfactant binds to the gills of fish and other creatures that breathe water and basically suffocates them. But even if soap had no surfactants, the issue is also the washing of a multitude of toxic elements that soap washes off the car: petroleum products, asbestos from brake dust, heavy metals from the highway, sediment dust, the list goes on. So, sorry, no soap or cleaning water from cars is safe for the environment. In fact, carwashing at home usually leaves on dirt from the undercarriage that many good carwashes help to wash off and treat. Puget Sound is dying the death of a thousand cuts, can't we apply at least this bandage and do it right?

geo-depot

November 12th, 2009 10:32 AM PT

I believe in educating the populace but the vast majority will never comprehend because society has done such a good job of removing people from the problem. Most people don't understand how landfills work and probably don't really care. They just want their trash picked up and trust that government is protecting the environment. The same with sewage. Stormwater is just one more utility that most people do not care about. They trust someone else is protecting the environment. We need strict regulations on MS4's. Save the education money for stormwater retrofits.

pbennett

November 4th, 2009 1:41 PM PT

At one point in our history we got tired of sewage running down our streets. We solved that by installing pipes. Then we realized that it wasn't a good idea to pipe the sewage into our rivers, streams and oceans. We solved that with sewage treatment facilities. Now we realize that stormwater and urban runoff need to be captured and treated as well. Desiginate a place for urban runoff to go, regulate it and enforce the regulations. If people don't know where it should go then it will end up wherever you don'y want it.

kylespinks

October 28th, 2009 10:17 AM PT

Many of you have made good points, but an underlying theme that seems to be repeated is that societal change is hard to accomplish, so we should be focusing on changing the design of the storm water systems where the runoff eventually drains. My opinion here is that this is a cop-out. Absolutely it will be hard to change the societal norms (HS car washes that fund the football team, for example), but that doesn't mean we should just give up and try a less uncomfortable method of addressing storm water pollutants. The first step may be the hardest, but if a concerted effort is made to educate the fund-raisers or individual car washers, then perhaps a societal change will begin. For example, how about convincing a local car wash business that recycles its water to partner with the fund-raisers, donating part of their proceeds to the group that needs the money. This would serve the needs of the community as well as the need to address water quality issues. Not to mention it would be a great advertisement for the business as a community supporter! Another argument offered is that storm water pollutants from car washes may not be that much of a problem, given what's washed off from car undercarriages or from roadways. Again, a cop-out, in my opinion. Yes, roadway or undercarriage runoff are both contributors, but to say that car washing adds so much less pollution and therefore isn't worth addressing is to deny the potential additive effects of many small efforts to improve water quality. As I've heard many times, it takes many drops of water to fill the bucket, and each drop can be important. Car washing behaviors are one of theses "drops of water" that can be addressed to improve water quality overall. Individually, we all work in different ways to address environmental stresses...using fluorescent light bulbs, buying local, using our bike instead of the car...and each of these things take (1) a dedication to the overall goal of sustainability, and (2) some measure of sacrifice. However, the "sacrifice" may be only short term, since the sacrifice often is financial or otherwise impacts our lives. But acceptance and adoption of a new behavior society-wide often leads to changes that make the initial sacrifices of minor impact, both for the individual and for society as a whole. For example, remember when a calculator with just the four arithmetic functions cost nearly $100? Not so expensive any more, but the initial sacrifice (money) for improved performance and reduced cost has been worth it. Similarly, curbside recycling is now taken for granted and we just do it as a natural part of our household refuse management behavior, but it wasn't always so. I fully believe that changing car washing behaviors society-wide can bring about the same results, with a little initial sacrifice on all our parts.

BlackRiverBRAT

October 21st, 2009 7:18 AM PT

How do folks feel about non-toxic soaps, such as Vermont Soap Company's Liquid Sunshine? http://www.vermontsoap.com/ntc.shtml It's what we use when we do fundraising car washes, and we do them away from storm drains or ditches.

greg chick

October 11th, 2009 11:18 AM PT

The comment above about the "feel good comunity involvement" and the local church car wash has another side. My point will be respect for the sake of respect, nothing else. I am a comunity volenteer to a fault, and requirement still prevail. If I wanted to have a wet T shirt contest the local churches would scream! I would respond, Im raising $ for the VFW or what ever. Morality and respect for the Storm water quality are both subjective issues. What are the facts? I dont think wet T shirts hurt a thing, I do belive car washes can. So do we "save the children, or the Planet?" Greg Chick AKA Ramonasplumber.com

greg chick

October 11th, 2009 11:08 AM PT

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latimat

September 9th, 2009 2:08 PM PT

Since the Clean Water Act of 1972, this has been Law, though slow to enforce, with my having owned a Mobile Truck Wash Business i know fullwell the impact our Company had on the environment once learning that nothing other rain water can be discharged to a storm drain having been cited in 1991. I accepted this as a challenge and invented the LATIMAT Portable Wash Pad, and began my long journey in trying to educate everyone from the American Trucking Association to Commercial Airlines, Railroads ( magnetic railmats cling into and outside of the tracks for containment and recovery during washing) all the way to NASA, where in 2005 I was Contracted to Clean and Contain the Saturn V Rocket at Johnson Space Center Houston.All of this effort to this day has not by any means made me a rich man,,, in fact I am not happy with the lack of enforcement all across North America , having been to a meeting with Toronto Water Pollution Control, they were trying to tell a class filled with Mobile Washers that this has been on the books for years and most if any knew where a storm drain leads.Licensing is required as is now in effect in Texas,and other US States to try to educate people. The tv ads with GM, FORD,CHRYSLER to name a few washing cars in residential driveways just goes to show that we are ignorant of the LAW and instead we should be promoting Environmentally safe practices. There are more than 75,000 Mobile Wash businesses in the US alone, dumping Billions of gallons of waste water into our natural habitat washing planes, trains and automobiles, trucks, trailers, drivethroughs,buildings, boats at the dock,machinery (heavily laden with Hydrocarbons)and the list goes on and on. Detergents, Acids, Degreasers mixed with hydrocarbons being cleaned from these articles goes strait into the eco system without treatment. When speaking to a number of Associations many years ago, i was asked to have my materials and slides proofed before i could speak to the audience,,,, afraid that i was going to put people out of Business is my guess with the incremental costs of outfitting MOBILE tRUCKS and the incremental costs the trucking and others would have to endure caused a lot of commotion in the Industry. Doug Latimer Toronto

pbennett

September 2nd, 2009 9:08 AM PT

When it comes to issues like this it is extremely difficult to alter current behavior patterns. Community car wash fund raisers and the do-it-yourself mentality will always prevail. Who is going to be the one to tell people thay can't do something that is such a feel good activity for the community, or is a weekend chore that has been a tradition for generations. It's just un-American. The whole current design of stormwater drop inlets and the non-treatment route needs to be changed. Most of the current stormwater infrastructure that is installed is flawed and inefficient from the start.The bottom line is that the majority of urban stormwater runoff needs to be captured and treated.

frogfriend

August 27th, 2009 11:37 AM PT

A video on the Car Wash Kits can be seen at the Skagit Conservation District website www.skagitcd.org

sarahbruce

August 26th, 2009 8:22 AM PT

Along the lines of education, I'd like to see all commercials showing car washing to depict PROPER behavior. There are a lot of commercials for say Viagra showing car washing in the driveway. EPA should contact makers of these products and tell them to stop showing behaviors deleterious to the environment.

NW Dan

August 21st, 2009 9:11 AM PT

The sampling methodology "estimates" the amount of loading to the MS4. Yes there probably were pollutants contributed from flows across the pavement at the charity events, but pollutants are also picked up and transported from impervious driveways and city right-of-ways where car washing takes place. Another study would be required to tease that out if one thought additional information was necessary to get the message across that residential carwashing contributes to stormwater pollution. The key is that the activity is technically illegal per stormwater permits & ordinances. Here is some simple information that can be used to possibly change behavior and reduce impacts. In most cases, people cannot control the pollutants washing off their cars from the undercarriage during rain events, but they can choose to not discharge directly to the MS4 through car washing. Let's tackle the known illicit discharges first by providing information to people that obviously don't know that the control is in their hands. Washing cars either in the summer or winter is still an illicit discharge. We are required to educate and/or enforce the permit when the activity occurs.

brownbul

August 17th, 2009 4:01 PM PT

I'm a skeptic of the car washing problem. Granted, massive mounds of soap suds is an issue, but only because too much soap is used. Most car washing guides specify minimal if any soap should be used. Cars are dirty things, but 1) most people only wash the body panels and not the undercarriage or engine...body panels that got dirty from the road, and 2) driving that same car during a rain storm surely washes more pollutants from the vehicle than washing in the driveway. These pollutants are drained by the same MS4 as the residential area. Education should be the focus...limit the use of soap and rinse water. But exaggerating impacts of residential car washing could result in dismissal out of hand by the people we most need to reach.

jim5930

August 15th, 2009 9:36 AM PT

A future study should compare the difference between the winter and summer seasons at the MS4 points. I don't see people washing their cars in their driveways during our rainy winter season verses any good summer day. Such a study would carry a big impact on my limited car washing at my home.

michaelp

August 12th, 2009 7:37 AM PT

I did have one concern with the sampling methodology. It appears the samples were taken after they traversed over pavement, most likely a parking lot. What assessment was made to account for "background" pollutants present on the paved surface?

bmce

August 12th, 2009 7:27 AM PT

Local government is slow to inforce MS4 regulations and people do not want to pay the price at a car wash.

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